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The civic conversations of Thucydides and Plato

classical political philosophy and the limits of democracy

by Gerald M. Mara

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Published by SUNY Press in Albany .
Written in English

    Subjects:
  • Political science -- Philosophy,
  • Democracy

  • Edition Notes

    Includes bibliographical references (p. 301-314) and index.

    StatementGerald M. Mara.
    Classifications
    LC ClassificationsJA71 .M26415 2008
    The Physical Object
    Paginationx, 327 p. ;
    Number of Pages327
    ID Numbers
    Open LibraryOL17045129M
    ISBN 100791474992, 079147500X
    ISBN 109780791474990, 9780791475003
    LC Control Number2007035625

      This conversation focuses on Josiah Ober’s books The Rise and Fall of Classical Greece, Democracy and Knowledge: Innovation and Learning in Classical Athens, and Political Dissent in Democratic Athens: Intellectual Critics of Popular Rule. Ober, Mitsotakis Professor of Political Science and Classics at Stanford University, focuses on the contemporary relevance of the political thought .


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Thucydides on the Outbreak of War Book Summary: The cause of great power war is a perennial issue for the student of politics.

The civic conversations of Thucydides and Plato book Some 2, years ago, in his monumental History of the Peloponnesian War, Thucydides wrote that it was the growth of Athenian power and the fear that this power inspired in Sparta which rendered the Peloponnesian War somehow necessary, inevitable, or compulsory.

Thucydides and Plato on Democracy (G.M.) Mara The Civic Conversations of Thucydides and Plato. Classical Political Philosophy and the Limits of Democracy.

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X + Albany, NY: State University of New York Press, Cased, US$ ISBN: [REVIEW] Loren J. Samons - - The Classical Review 60 (1) This book proposes a new paradigm for the interpretation of Plato's early and middle dialogues.

Rejecting the usual assumption of a distinct 'Socratic' period in the development of Plato's thought, this view regards the earlier works as deliberate preparation for the exposition of Plato's mature philosophy.

Many, however, are unaware of his ‘international’ thought, where he emerges as a rival to Thucydides. In the first Book of the Republic, Socrates begins to talk about matters of justice among city states, but is interrupted by Thrasymachus. The topic of war then re-surfaces in Books 2 and 3.

Thucydides, Plato, and Aristotle, among others, it examines perennial (P. Lang, ). He is currently at work on the book Roman Political Thought and the Return to the World.

GERALD MARAisExecutiveAssociateDean, He is the author of The Civic Conversations of Thucydides and Plato: Clas-sical Political Philosophy and the Limits of. Whether you've loved the book or not, if you give your honest and detailed thoughts then people will find new books that are right for them.

1 The Civic Conversations of Thucydides and Plato: Classical Political Philosophy and the Limits of Democracy. Plato, Artistotle and Thucydides. PLATO, ARISTOTLE AND THUCYDIDES Thucydides was an Athenian historian, general and political philosopher son of Olorus.

He is considered as the father of the school of political realism. This is because he viewed the relations between countries as.

In this connection, Thucydides may have more to contribute to democratic political theory than is often supposed. Appreciating his contributions means taking him at his word when he writes early in Book 1 of the History that he has composed “a possession forever, and not a Cited by: 6.

Georgetown University Gerald Mara is Dean of the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences and Professorial Lecturer in Government at Georgetown University. He is the author of The Civic Conversations of Thucydides and Plato (), Classical Political Philosophy and The Limits of Democracy (), among other by: 1.

I discuss the implications of this episode for Thucydides’ narrative more fully in The Civic Conversations of Thucydides and Plato: Classical Political Theory and the Limits of Democracy (Albany: State University of New York Press, ), –Cited by: 1. In this account, Thucydides emerges as sensitive to the non-rational and the limits of human agency, sceptical about political speech, resistant to easy generalisations or theoretical reductions, and opposed to any practical, moral or constitutional closure in politics.

The book will be of interest to students of politics and classics. The History of the Peloponnesian War continued to be modified well beyond the end of the war inas exemplified by a reference at Book I to the conclusion of the Peloponnesian War ( BC), seven years after the last events in the main text of Thucydides' history.

Thucydides is generally regarded as Born: c. BC, Halimous, Athens (modern Alimos). Gerald M. Mara, The Civic Conversations of Thucydides and Plato: Classical Political Philosophy and the Limits of Democracy. Albany: SUNY Press, Pp.

x, ISBN $ Reviewed by Diego De Brasi, Otto-Friedrich-Universität Bamberg. Then finally as rule of law, which apply equally in the society. However, for the purpose of this paper, we focus on discussions of ancient Greeks on the practice and theory of democracy as a system of government.

Appraisal for Democracy by Plato, Aristotle and Thucydides Plato is one dominant figure in the history of democracy. Summary and Analysis Book VIII Summary.

In Book V, Socrates was about to develop his theories of injustice by arguing examples of injustice, when Polemarchus and Adeimantus asked him to continue his conversation about the Guardians.

Now (in Book VIII) Socrates returns to his examples of unjust societies and unjust men. PLATO'S CONTINUING RELEVANCE Malcolm Schofield: Plato: Political Philosophy (Oxford and New York: Oxford University Press, Pp.

x, $) Article in The Review of Politics 70(03 Author: James H Nichols. "Thucydides and the Pursuit of Freedom is a unique, detailed reading of the History of the Peloponnesian War and the beginning of a new conversation about the theme of freedom in that history.

This book is groundbreaking because it deals with the subject of freedom at several levels and throughout the entire : Cornell University Press. The civic conversations of Thucydides and Plato: Classical political philosophy and the limits of democracy. Consider another example.

One of the most renowned parts of his history is the Melian dialogue, where Thucydides reports on a conversation that took place between envoys from an invading Athenian force and officials from the small island city-state of Melos, which the Athenians were about to assault.

In the dialogue, Thucydides presents his. In The Good Representative, Suzanne Dovi argues that democratic citizens should assess their representatives by their display of three virtues: they must be fair-minded, build critical trust, and be good important book provides standards for evaluating the democratic credentials of fies the problems with and obstacles to good democratic.

Plato Aristotle and Thucydides Essay Sample. Thucydides was an Athenian historian, general and political philosopher son of Olorus. He is considered as the father of the school of political realism.

This is because he viewed the relations between countries as basing on might instead of right. The Apology of Plato may be compared generally with those speeches of Thucydides in which he has embodied his conception of the lofty character and policy of the great Pericles, and which at the same time furnish a commentary on the situation of affairs from the point of view of the historian.

So in the Apology there is an ideal rather than a. Editorial team. General Editors: David Bourget (Western Ontario) David Chalmers (ANU, NYU) Area Editors: David Bourget Gwen Bradford. Reviewed by Nicholas D.

Smith. Gerald M. Mara, The Civic Conversations of Thucydides and Plato: Classical Political Philosophy and the Limits of Philosophy (Albany, NY: State University of New York Press, ), pp., $, ISBN 0 (hbk).

Reviewed by John R. Wallach. William B. The City and Man consists of provocative essays by the late Leo Strauss on Aristotle's Politics, Plato's Republic, and Thucydides' Peloponnesian Wars. Together, the essays constitute a brilliant attempt to use classical political philosophy as a means of liberating modern political philosophy from the stranglehold of ideology.

The essays are based on a long and intimate familiarity with the 5/5(2). Abstract. This essay argues that the Republic is, among other things, a meditation by Plato on the proximity of philosophy and war and on the dangers of that proximity for philosophy and politics. It is also Plato's reflection on the conduct, execution, and impact of a particular war, the panHellenic Peloponnesian War, Cited by: Contrasting Views of Classical Athens: Pericles and Plato Introduction This paper contrasts the classical Athens- Pericles and Plato's views from multiple aspects in a concise way.

We must first recall Thucydides' explicit judgment of Pericles before tracing the conversation with this. Faculty Profile. Press Tab to Continue to Page Content. Skip to content Profile Navigation. Plato Republic Book IV: What is the difference between civic courage and individual courage.

Socrates defines civic courage as “ the power to preserve through everything its belief about what things are to be feared, namely, that they are the things and the kinds of things the lawgiver declared to be such in the course of educating it. Looking for books by Thucydides. See all books authored by Thucydides, including History of the Peloponnesian War, and On Justice, Power and Human Nature: Selections from The History of the Peloponnesian War, and more on Although he is not ordinarily interpreted as a philosopher, Thucydides enters into conversation with the canonical political philosophers by engaging with the question of the good life lived within a well-ordered society.

Displaying the conceptions of the good society presented by leading Athenians and Spartans, Thucydides emphasizes their illusory, self-destructive : Ryan Balot. Thucydides versus Plato Thucydides versus Plato on the nature of the Good Life Plato and Thucydides both had strikingly different views on their approach on the good life.

Some have claimed that Plato is making normative claims, whereas Thucydides is making empirical claims. Let's start by taking a look at Plato. In Thucydides' recounting of Pericles' funeral oration, the Athenian leader missing from the funeral orations.

The Invention of Athens (New York: Zone Books, ), These Gerald Mara, The Civic Conversations ofThucydides and Plato (Albany; SUNY Press, ), John Zumbrunnen, Silence and Democracy (University Park.Helps study about Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Herodotus, Thucydides, and Hippocrates Learn with flashcards, games, and more — for free.

38 terms. Hamchop Amazing Greek Thinkers. Helps study about Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Herodotus, Thucydides, and Hippocrates. STUDY. PLAY. Plato. Lived possibly from BC and was a.LOVE, FRIENDSHIP AND IMAGES: CITIZENSHIP AND NECESSITY IN THUCYDIDES AND PLATO A Dissertation submitted to the Faculty of the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences of Georgetown University in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy in Government By Rachel Templer B.A.

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